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	<description>By Ken Goldberg</description>
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		<title>Comment on About Ken Goldberg by Concrete Repair</title>
		<link>http://beacononlinenews.com/blogs/hanginthere/about/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Concrete Repair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

This is like my morning coffee, I mean your web blog, I&#039;ve been an ignorant on so many topics but thanks to you I learned much. Funny how I believe something and then I discover that the reality is totally different. Your articles are great to say the least. I love, love, love your blog! I love the way you write your articles by the way, you&#039;ve done an excellent job with your website!

 CU!</description>
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<p>This is like my morning coffee, I mean your web blog, I&#8217;ve been an ignorant on so many topics but thanks to you I learned much. Funny how I believe something and then I discover that the reality is totally different. Your articles are great to say the least. I love, love, love your blog! I love the way you write your articles by the way, you&#8217;ve done an excellent job with your website!</p>
<p> CU!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop the educational abuse! by Richard Church</title>
		<link>http://beacononlinenews.com/blogs/hanginthere/2009/03/06/stop-the-educational-abuse/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all you are saying. It seems that education is not a priority in Florida. Its sad when you place more importance on a football coach than you do on teachers. Even pay them more than teachers. It has come to point where more money is aloted to sports than teaching. And the administration is so much more interested in winning a championship than making sure our kids are educated. What are we teaching the students? That unless you are a football player, you are not important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all you are saying. It seems that education is not a priority in Florida. Its sad when you place more importance on a football coach than you do on teachers. Even pay them more than teachers. It has come to point where more money is aloted to sports than teaching. And the administration is so much more interested in winning a championship than making sure our kids are educated. What are we teaching the students? That unless you are a football player, you are not important.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Still Hanging in There by Tanner Andrews</title>
		<link>http://beacononlinenews.com/blogs/hanginthere/2009/07/06/still-hanging-in-there/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanner Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not identifying folks as needing to leave.  Yes, I do have a list, and yes, it probably includes some of the same folks on yours.

However, I am simply suggesting that we cease to subsidize more growth.  It is expensive, and produces things like Arvida (miles from the core of town, and sucking enough tax dollars that we had to raise the millage as it came online).

I suppose I ought to get points for picking on Arvida instead of [insert obvious city here] which seems to consist of almost nothing but sprawl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not identifying folks as needing to leave.  Yes, I do have a list, and yes, it probably includes some of the same folks on yours.</p>
<p>However, I am simply suggesting that we cease to subsidize more growth.  It is expensive, and produces things like Arvida (miles from the core of town, and sucking enough tax dollars that we had to raise the millage as it came online).</p>
<p>I suppose I ought to get points for picking on Arvida instead of [insert obvious city here] which seems to consist of almost nothing but sprawl.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Still Hanging in There by ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Tanner, who should be the first people to leave since you are suggesting we have too many of your fellow human creatures around.  Should we open hunting season for the surplus that you say we have.  I would not have thought a reasonable person like yourself to be so misanthopic.  And by the way, Arvida and the Victoria Park Project provided a windfall of tax revenue to the City of Deland.  Its not the developers fault they wasted it and didn&#039;t sock any away for lean times.  Many businesses are able to provide services to the people who live there, utilities, doctors, pharmacy, cleaning, landscaping, etc., and yes, those folks do need an attorney now and then too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Tanner, who should be the first people to leave since you are suggesting we have too many of your fellow human creatures around.  Should we open hunting season for the surplus that you say we have.  I would not have thought a reasonable person like yourself to be so misanthopic.  And by the way, Arvida and the Victoria Park Project provided a windfall of tax revenue to the City of Deland.  Its not the developers fault they wasted it and didn&#8217;t sock any away for lean times.  Many businesses are able to provide services to the people who live there, utilities, doctors, pharmacy, cleaning, landscaping, etc., and yes, those folks do need an attorney now and then too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Still Hanging in There by Tanner Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanner Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The spam may provide a job, too.  Somewhere is a kid with a shriveled conscience and underdeveloped sense of right and wrong.  That kid is maintaining the program that injects all that spam.

And yes, that&#039;s a shame.  It is really unfortunate that we cannot find him and educate him, preferably with a 2x2.

The problem is not just that we have too many of the ``best&#039;&#039; jobs being in government.  We pay for that, but thanks to Save Our Homes, much of the public is largely immune to the cost.

The problem is that we have government jobs doing the wrong thing.  Much of the govt is focused in supporting more development.  That means we pave more water recharge area.  It means we have more black-top, making things hotter if you go out in the day.  It means that we have more traffic, and need more roads to support the developers.

Developers contribute generously.  That&#039;s why govt supports them so well with our taxes.  You cannot honestly say that the citizens of DeLand benefitted by having Arvida built.  A few developers, and some temporary jobs, but that money rides out of town on the next truck after the Wal-Mart truck.

There may be no good solution.  We may just have too many people.  What is clear, however, is that bringing in more people will not solve our present problem of too much development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The spam may provide a job, too.  Somewhere is a kid with a shriveled conscience and underdeveloped sense of right and wrong.  That kid is maintaining the program that injects all that spam.</p>
<p>And yes, that&#8217;s a shame.  It is really unfortunate that we cannot find him and educate him, preferably with a 2&#215;2.</p>
<p>The problem is not just that we have too many of the &#8220;best&#8221; jobs being in government.  We pay for that, but thanks to Save Our Homes, much of the public is largely immune to the cost.</p>
<p>The problem is that we have government jobs doing the wrong thing.  Much of the govt is focused in supporting more development.  That means we pave more water recharge area.  It means we have more black-top, making things hotter if you go out in the day.  It means that we have more traffic, and need more roads to support the developers.</p>
<p>Developers contribute generously.  That&#8217;s why govt supports them so well with our taxes.  You cannot honestly say that the citizens of DeLand benefitted by having Arvida built.  A few developers, and some temporary jobs, but that money rides out of town on the next truck after the Wal-Mart truck.</p>
<p>There may be no good solution.  We may just have too many people.  What is clear, however, is that bringing in more people will not solve our present problem of too much development.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Still Hanging in There by Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do I start ?

Why do people complain about government jobs when the economy is bad ?

When the economy is good and people are working, government workers are among the lowest paid.

Florida has been going downhill since the early eighties because of growth.

Florida has become overcrowded and the crime rate is through the roof because of growth.

Impact fees are way too low. They should be doubled. People who have lived here for generations are constantly being expected to foot the bills for new roads and schools.

Builders should be required to pay for these things instead of the taxpayer.

People should complain more about what an attorney makes per hour for pushing paper,  instead of what a lowly paid government worker makes.

And no , I&#039;m not a government worker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do I start ?</p>
<p>Why do people complain about government jobs when the economy is bad ?</p>
<p>When the economy is good and people are working, government workers are among the lowest paid.</p>
<p>Florida has been going downhill since the early eighties because of growth.</p>
<p>Florida has become overcrowded and the crime rate is through the roof because of growth.</p>
<p>Impact fees are way too low. They should be doubled. People who have lived here for generations are constantly being expected to foot the bills for new roads and schools.</p>
<p>Builders should be required to pay for these things instead of the taxpayer.</p>
<p>People should complain more about what an attorney makes per hour for pushing paper,  instead of what a lowly paid government worker makes.</p>
<p>And no , I&#8217;m not a government worker.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It Is Time To Call It Like It Is by ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;ll give you that.  I havn&#039;t been to NB&#039;s and would love to check it out.  That being said, of the places in town I have eaten in, and that would be most of them, almost all of them have screwed up the table setting and service.  The biggest problem seems to be a complete lack of training of wait staff and hosts.  Maybe Chili&#039;s will jetison some properly trained staff who may wind up working in downtown DeLand eateries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;ll give you that.  I havn&#8217;t been to NB&#8217;s and would love to check it out.  That being said, of the places in town I have eaten in, and that would be most of them, almost all of them have screwed up the table setting and service.  The biggest problem seems to be a complete lack of training of wait staff and hosts.  Maybe Chili&#8217;s will jetison some properly trained staff who may wind up working in downtown DeLand eateries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It Is Time To Call It Like It Is by Denny H</title>
		<link>http://beacononlinenews.com/blogs/hanginthere/2009/05/10/it-is-time-to-call-it-like-it-is/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, next time try another place - Norville Barnes. There is ALWAYS sliverware on the tables and app plates...everytime. Sorry you have had a bad experience with one location, but please don&#039;t lump all &quot;local eateries, bars, and coffee shops&quot; into what you term &quot;mostly bad&quot;, because there are many great places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, next time try another place &#8211; Norville Barnes. There is ALWAYS sliverware on the tables and app plates&#8230;everytime. Sorry you have had a bad experience with one location, but please don&#8217;t lump all &#8220;local eateries, bars, and coffee shops&#8221; into what you term &#8220;mostly bad&#8221;, because there are many great places.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How NASCAR can survive and help Volusia by Tanner Andrews</title>
		<link>http://beacononlinenews.com/blogs/hanginthere/2009/02/08/how-nascar-can-survive-and-help-volusia/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanner Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might not be a bad idea to have some sort of delete-spam option.  We appear to be drawing the usual sort of junk that would be expected.

Governments love this.  If you can drown out content with adverts for loans and souvenir schlock, then you can reduce the amount of debate.  Given the thirst of government for unsupervised money, I can understand why they might not want to crack down on what is in effect electronic graffiti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might not be a bad idea to have some sort of delete-spam option.  We appear to be drawing the usual sort of junk that would be expected.</p>
<p>Governments love this.  If you can drown out content with adverts for loans and souvenir schlock, then you can reduce the amount of debate.  Given the thirst of government for unsupervised money, I can understand why they might not want to crack down on what is in effect electronic graffiti.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forgive Them for They Don&#8217;t Know What They are Doing? by pat</title>
		<link>http://beacononlinenews.com/blogs/hanginthere/2009/04/17/forgive-them-for-they-dont-know-what-they-are-doing/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Except, after assembling a very good advisory committee, seated with people who are hands-on day in and day out professionals who deal with housing as a career, the County Council, and staff, as expressed by County Manager Dineen, blew them off.&quot;

Under the current administration, that&#039;s no surprise.

Affordable housing is even more important in difficult economic times.

As for commuter rail (sigh), we need to put it in. It&#039;s been too bogged down in political slop to move forward in any kind of cost-effective way, as it should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Except, after assembling a very good advisory committee, seated with people who are hands-on day in and day out professionals who deal with housing as a career, the County Council, and staff, as expressed by County Manager Dineen, blew them off.&#8221;</p>
<p>Under the current administration, that&#8217;s no surprise.</p>
<p>Affordable housing is even more important in difficult economic times.</p>
<p>As for commuter rail (sigh), we need to put it in. It&#8217;s been too bogged down in political slop to move forward in any kind of cost-effective way, as it should.</p>
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