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485 blue-collar workers may be jobless
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BEACON PHOTO/AL EVERSON
Got work? — Taking time from a busy day and night, members of the Volusia School District’s custodial and maintenance staff watch the School Board’s deliberations on whether to outsource their jobs.

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Watching and waiting — These Volusia County Schools employees say their work includes more than simply cleaning restrooms and mopping floors. In addition to their routine tasks, the janitors and maintenance workers say they help out in classrooms and with extra activities at school. Despite their hard work, they say they fear unemployment, if the School Board ultimately decides to choose private companies to do their work. School administrators say privatizing the custodial and maintenance staff of the schools will save millions of dollars in a frail economy.

By Al Everson
BEACON STAFF WRITER

posted Feb 18, 2013 - 6:32:59am

After almost five hours of analytical presentations and impassioned remarks, the Volusia County School Board voted 3-2 to contract with private firms willing to take over work now done by its own custodians and maintenance personnel.

“We’re going out in new territory,” School Board Member Candace Lankford said.

A crowd of custodial and maintenance workers attended the Feb. 12 meeting.

The School Board’s split vote is not the final move. It authorizes the school-district administration to issue request proposals from prospective contractors, who would make their best bids to take over janitorial work and grounds maintenance at schools and other buildings.

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The school district must also formally solicit bids, and the School Board must award the contracts.

Schools Superintendent Margaret Smith proposed the policy change.

“I have made this recommendation in order to help save the students and classrooms from further budget cuts,” Dr. Smith said. “It is heart-wrenching, impacting our custodial and grounds-care employees.”

About 485 employees are directly affected. Many of them showed up to hear, and help form, the debate.

K. Radford, a custodian at Freedom Elementary School in DeLand, had a different money-saving idea.

“In other districts, board members are volunteers. If they want to do something, why don’t they give up their pay?” she said.

The five elected Volusia County School Board members each earn $34,010 a year.

The proposal to contract with private maintenance firms is the latest austerity measure, following five years of budget cuts as a result of a continuing economic slump, reduced state appropriations for education, declines in revenues, and the rejection in the fall by Volusia County voters of a 1-mill add-on property tax.

That tax would have generated an estimated $25 million in new revenue each year for the next four years. To close the gap between estimated spending and revenues, Assistant Superintendent for Financial Services Robert Moll said some teachers may also have to be cut from the payroll during the 2013-14 fiscal year.

“This is my sixth year in this position. Every budget has been a difficult one,” Moll said. “Discussions like this are very, very difficult.”

The School Board confirmed the janitorial and maintenance jobs will be cut.

“The vote tonight is the elimination of those positions?” School Board Chairwoman Diane Smith asked District Chief Counsel Michael Dyer.

“That’s correct,” Dyer said.

If the outsourcing goes forward and a contract is awarded to “the lowest responsible bidder,” he said, “the last day of employment will be June 30.”

To cushion the blow, the School Board will include in its RFP a requirement that the winning bidder hire the School District’s current employees, if those workers are willing to accept the job. Dyer said the RFP provision is “mandatory, not permissive.”

The School Board’s decision to privatize work now done by its own blue-collar staff is supposed to save between $4.5 million and $6 million per year.

If the proposals from the companies competing for a contract with the School Board do not show “substantial” savings — well below the almost $18.6 million allocated this year for janitorial work, maintenance and groundskeeping — Dr. Margaret Smith said she will not recommend making the change.

The cautionary expressions were not comforting to employees who stand to be axed. A union president questioned what working conditions would be under a private contractor.

“I did not hear anything about a 40-hour week,” said Thomas Wenz, president of American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) Local 850.

“We are now throwing people to the wind,” he added. “It is time for every employee of this district to say, ‘Enough is enough.’”

“As a husband, father and grandfather, I need my job,” said Robert Armstrong of Orange City.

“It has a huge humanitarian cost, hundreds of people,” said Sarah Jones of Port Orange.

Jones said the explanation of how money would be saved was “ ... not to clarify but to mystify.”

Privatizing had its supporters, as well, even if they were not as numerous as the critics.

“You’ve got a difficult decision here tonight because Volusia County is in a difficult position,” said Jim Cameron, vice president of governmental relations of the Daytona Beach Regional Chamber of Commerce. “Anyone can bid. Employees can bid through the contract-bargaining process. ... Are we thrilled about this? No, but we’re saying, ‘Do what you have to do.’”

“People’s jobs and careers are at stake, but you’ve got to think about the jobs and careers of our students,” Nancy Holman, of Ormond Beach, told the School Board. “This will have the least impact on our students.”

When the board voted, Lankford and Board Members Linda Costello and Stan Schmidt formed the majority, while Chairwoman Smith and new Board Member Ida Wright dissented.

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Disgusted | posted Feb 21, 2013 - 7:49:14pm
We, the taxpayers, don't actually hire or fire Margaret Smith. The five school board members have that sole responsibility. We just pay her exorbitant salary and benefits. The public's wish to send her packing must be voiced loudly and consistently and on the public record. The pressure must be applied to the individual school board members. A good case can be made for her dismissal as others here have stated. But it is only the majority of those school board members who can make it happen. You need to bend their ears at every turn and threaten their re-election hopes. The Superintendent has overstayed her welcome. New direction and leadership are needed before there is nothing left to lead.
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Fannie | posted Feb 21, 2013 - 4:29:09pm
I would be okay with them outsourcing too if and *only* if they have cut the fat everywhere and there was just no other choice. We all know that have not done that.
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Annie | posted Feb 21, 2013 - 3:22:39pm
Outsourcing landscaping and maintenance is fine with me - also, outsource the busing. Why does the school district mow the grass in January and February at the University High school? The grass is dormant, needs no mowing. However it would be nice if the school children would pick up their trash that they leave in the parking lot and that they strew along Rhode Island. Aren't they taught to be responsible for the environment?
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Paul Hale | posted Feb 21, 2013 - 10:52:22am
The volume of voices are growing.. but they are not listening, yet.
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singletary_zero | posted Feb 21, 2013 - 7:11:21am
Everyone has a voice and the more that join in the louder that voice becomes. You want Smith out well then what are you waiting for? She works for you, the taxpayer. You pay her salary and all the benefits she gets. If the employee doesn't do the job then you replace them.
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Thank you Russ and Peg, | posted Feb 20, 2013 - 1:44:22pm
Now my kids will get Healthy Kids insurance, free lunch, and whatever other goverment handouts I will now be eligible for, truly the school board are true custodians of the taxpayer dollars.
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mrs. robinson | posted Feb 20, 2013 - 10:50:55am
lets see here, we have a superintendent that:

refused to meet the class size amendment (broke the law, resulting in fines)

has watched over the move of volusia schools to a "c" district

protects administrative jobs at ANY cost

that is 3 strikes, margaret smith

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example of leadership | posted Feb 20, 2013 - 10:22:01am
Not Russ, "I failed at Nascar, my marriage, and effectively managing the backhoe division, but look how cool I look on a motorcycle on facebook" Tysinger? The man who manages to have an ever rotating cast of supervisors whenever they were employee complaints, or suggestions to save money that were not his? Money paid to Aramark to provide broken equipment, little supplies, and Supervisors with no training, but still did employees evaluations at the rate of $92,000 a month (you know...the equivalent yearly salary of three custodians). I am sickened by this lack of leadership, inability to take responsibility, and overall lack of empathy of what the taxpayers want. Fire the people who have us at a "c" rating, fire the people who missed class sizes three times.
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Disgusted | posted Feb 19, 2013 - 5:32:23pm
If you know how things work in the school system hierarchy, you know that Russ Tysinger tells the school board exactly what the Superintendent of Schools directs him to tell them. Nothing more and nothing less, especially for the public record. The buck does stop with her and a spineless school board who takes everything at face value without challenge. How any of them can sleep after the wholesale selling out of 500 loyal employees and their families is beyond me. They're going home with their paychecks after all, so no worries!
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Paul Hale | posted Feb 19, 2013 - 7:12:30am
Margaret Smith, Russ Tysinger, School Board members:

Allow me 30 days and the ability to pick who to work with at the Volusia County School Board (or anyone I wish).. and I will deliver the results of a MEANINGFUL and realistic cost analysis that looks at bringing all of custodial services back to where it should be, in-house.. and back into the hands of caring people.

There are three School Board members that NEED to see a viable alternative.

No bullchip and no egos.. just working people with common sense attempting to solve a problem. (with no involvement by your Maintenance Department at all)

Will you take that challenge?

It is for the children.

Paul Hale

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Shawn | posted Feb 19, 2013 - 6:39:31am
Again putting our kids in danger. This is not where the cuts need to be made. HOw about cutting all thoes field trips that dont have a educational purpose. Its rediculous these trips to amusement parks. I have 3 boys in schools and this is wrong in so many different ways. The reporcussion are going to be bad. I dont believe proper background checks will be done on future employees. STOP PUTTING OUR KIDS IN DANGER.
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Paul Hale | posted Feb 19, 2013 - 6:39:07am
This School Board has some tangible evidence by which to make a decision regarding the outsourcing of custodial services, but their Director of Maintenance Russell (Russ) Tysinger has failed in his duty to properly inform them of previous and continuing problems of an outside contractor that already has a foot in the door, as they wondered aloud what outsourcing might look like. He has failed to paint a realistic picture for them.. why he would he choose to omit pertinent information is for someone else to figure out.

Superintendent Margaret Smith and Director of Maintenance Russ Tysinger got a YES nod to outsourcing custodial services on February 13, 2013 by three Volusia County School Board members and with a willingness that may rise to the level of eagerness, these five are now leading an assault on nearly 500 families and their livelihood. This move toward outsourcing Volusia County Schools custodial services began last summer (2012), which makes it all the more disturbing and raises concerns on several levels.

If this School Board decides to look the other way and be led blindly into an outsourcing contract, I would Immediately revise the School Board contract with Russ Tysinger to forbid him from jumping ship and going to work for WHOEVER (wink, wink..) gets the contract.

I would also eliminate Russ Tysinger's desire to hold on to his band of gypsy supervisors that will be paid to essentially evaluate themselves.. a luxury that Aramark has held for some time.. a luxury that was handed to them by Russ Tysinger and something he will want desperately. If this School Board eventually votes to approve a contract to outsource, they should hire an independent and unbiased third party company to evaluate the cleanliness of our schools with the money saved from cutting the supervisors that have nothing to do, supervisors that he moves around constantly in his funny little payroll game.

This relationship with an outside contractor was structured for many years so that area supervisors employed by Volusia County Schools were paid for with our tax dollars but were supervised by the outside contractor Aramark. A very odd organizational structure that left us twisting in the wind when we needed help. Russ Tysinger and his maintenance department have repeatedly failed to hold Aramark accountable to their obligations under the contract.

Does anyone know why that would be?

Aramark fell under the umbrella of the VCSB Maintenance Department and it has always been a struggle and at times impossible to get the proper amount of cleaning supplies and equipment from Aramark. There is not a system in place to track the amount of product that they are supplying, (or the value of what they were providing) nor is there a system in place to evaluate the equipment or service they are or have been providing by having good documentation.

Don't listen to me.. and don't listen to Russ Tysinger. Go ask the educators that are serving as Principals, or better yet ask the Assistant Principals that serve in the role as the Facility Manager of their schools and ask them what their experience has been. Ask the Head Custodians in any of the schools across the county... ask the people who have dealt with Aramark on a regular basis.

These School Board members don't need to wonder aloud what outsourcing might look like and what kind of service will be provided, many of us already know already know, and it is all there for you to evaluate.

Apparently your Director of Maintenance Russ Tysinger doesn't want you to know.

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JEL | posted Feb 19, 2013 - 6:29:17am
"Disgusted" You expressed exactly how I feel about this whole subject. I suspect there will be no benefits to these new low wage jobs (or they would have bragged about them) adding more burden to the tax payer in the long term, but will allow the shell game to continue for another day. The "new territory" thing reminds me of the Hope and Change nonsence.

Sincerely, JEL

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Disgusted | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 10:55:25pm
Those supporting this effort are the usual suspects. Holman enjoys a no bid contract with the school board but has no problem throwing others under the bus. Really rich! How about we clean house by starting at the top and stop protecting the highly paid administration. Call them all on the carpet and let each defend their jobs and usefulness to the classroom. Let those board members that supported this give up their full time salaries for part time work as they willingly destroy others livelihoods. If you think for one minute all custodial workers do is clean you haven't spent much time in your local school lately. Outrageous that this board has put the district in the position of ignoring state law thereby being fined by the state and axing employees who are the least paid and some of the hardest working. The school system ALWAYS overestimates potential savings. They work the numbers so the numbers work for them. What a hot mess!! But of course, the system is always very good at placing blame anywhere but where it really belongs. The state who doesn't give them enough money, the voters who voted down their tax increase,blah, blah, blah. Margaret Smith needs to be moved along before she implodes the whole system. And yea, yea, the RFP will require that they hire current employees; at what rate of pay, what hours, what benefits, what security checks, what work responsibilities? A low ball bid will surely result in the worst possible answers to these questions. Children's safety will be at risk and teachers will add custodian to their already overburdened job description. No, I'm not one of the affected employees or a relative. I'm just disgusted.
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New Direction | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 10:03:27pm
Yes I also think we need a NEW DIRECTION that Candace Lankford is referring to!!! GET RID OF HER AND THE SUPERINTENDENT! then

start a PETITION to LIMIT terms and PAY!! this is the only way they will listen is when the PUBLIC starts wanting change!

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Cesar Salazar | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 5:44:27pm
Exijo una aclaración de tu... dinero que irá a Aramark.
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Toni's message in spanish for the new hires | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 5:04:51pm
Me gusta pensar que la gente de mantenimiento ahora empleados por el distrito han sido examinados y huellas digitales de antecedentes penales. ¿Qué tan seguro que nuestros niños estén con los contratistas y emabrgo empleados contratados. Sad ese dinero puede pesar la seguridad de nuestros estudiantes.
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Morton | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 4:15:47pm

Make the students do the cleaning....it will show them what the future will be like in the Bankrupt States of America as it spirals into debt.

Our scumbags in Washington are on break gain.....maybe they can borrow more money for the big FRAUD which is what the USA has become.

The USA is a superpower...SUPERFRAUD...borrowing to keep the lies of wealth intact

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Paul Joseph | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 10:36:26am
Maybe our Education Governor can send us some money to keep these employees.
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Julian | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 10:34:38am
The affected employees should quickly form their own corporation and bid on the job.
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roy ensminger | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 10:33:05am
$34,000+/yr. for a school board member is a travesty. this should be an expenses only job. since every board member initially comes to the job without school board experience, there is no doubt a great pool of capable citizens who could do the job.
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Toni | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 9:47:29am
I would like to think that the maintenance people now employed by the district have been screened and finger printed for criminal background. How safe would our children be with contractors and thier hired employees. Sad that money may out weigh the safety of our students.
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Hugh Strickland | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 9:47:28am
Once again the school board is punishing the working group so that the administrators that administer administration can keep taking huge checks and benefits. Our double dipping superintendent is really not addressing the problems and the product is continuing to slide. The children in the school system are not getting what they need.

Privatizing government services is a joke. In the situations I have seen the privatization produces contractors that do not do what they are contracted to do and keep the contract until good sense prevail and employees are bought back.

Like in gardening, pruning should be done at the top, unless you want stunted growth and no fruit.

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Morton | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 9:03:06am

The Deltona City Manager is getting over $300,000 serverence package.....maybe she will share the unemployment blues with champagne?

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John Z | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 8:33:38am
I'll betcha I could find 75 to 80 "executive/management" positions to dispose of to justify keeping 485 maintenance people employed....
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John Z | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 8:22:13am
Instead of getting rid of the "least expensive" personnel needed to maintain the properties, get rid of some of the "most expensive" personnel that can't "justify" their massive salaries and perks. That would be the most intelligent way to save money. BUT, we're talking "higher ups" making decisions, with vast education, and zero common sense....
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Kudatz | posted Feb 18, 2013 - 6:46:59am
Finally some house cleaning. The hard working employees will have no problem keeping their jobs. The "lazy show up and do nothings" will have a serious problem as they will be terminated. Welcome to the Real World that Private Sector deals with every day!
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